Even Rolls Until Six

Probability
Conditional Probability
Medium
Dan repeatedly rolls a fair six-sided die until he gets a 6. Given that every roll he observed was even, what is the expected total number of rolls?
Hint 1

Conditioning on "all rolls even" is not the same as rolling a die with faces — long sequences are much less likely to survive the condition.

Hint 2

Stop the process at the first roll in . The condition says that stopping roll was a 6. Is the stopping time independent of which of these faces stopped it?

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  1. 1. Avoid the trap

    Restricting each roll to would give , but that ignores that the event "no odd roll before the 6" is more likely for short sequences.

  2. 2. Reframe the stopping time

    Let be the first roll showing or . Then is geometric with success probability , and the event is exactly "roll shows a 6".

  3. 3. Use independence

    The face at time is uniform on independently of , so conditioning on it being a 6 leaves the distribution of unchanged.

Answer: 3/2

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